I just ordered my third 1 x 4 Speed Shot Demo scope. The first one I ordered was originally intended to go on a M4 carbine build I was doing for the friend of a friend. That was cancelled but you had already shipped the scope so I put it on the shelf. Due to aging eyes I had been considering upgrading or replacing my EOTechs, which I really like, with some type of magnification. I tried magnifiers but was not really happy with the overall results. I decided to give the Speed Shot a try. Here is what I found out.
Note, I did get to the range on one cold blustery day and did get about 75 rounds down range using the Speed Shot before my fingers went numb. The range officer didn’t even come out of his office.
1) I tried to use a Cantilever Mount but could not get proper eye relief scope position without removing the rear BUIS.
2) I then tried Tactical style X-High (1” high) rings and gained the position travel I needed for proper eye relief. I have low profile rear BUIS on all my uppers and the scope clears them at the position I need.
3) At 1X I can sight with one eye or both eyes open or change back and forth with no change in POA or POI. The elevation and Illum. knobs become “semitransparent” with both eyes open so “I can see through” (actually around) them.
4) The illumination system is great. No dot blowout or reflections in the tube. If the background turns dark, turning the Illum. Dial to “1” gives just enough red to be able to distinguish the dot. I have not tested it in bright sunlight- a rarity during Ohio winters.
5) I would personally prefer a smaller dot as it tends to cover too much of a small target at a distance, but it is usable as is. Your ad does state “Dot: covers 4 inches at 100 yards.” so there was no surprise there.
6) The fact that the power numbers are on the front of the ring is insignificant as far as I am concerned. In my applications it will be all or nothing ( 1X or 4X) so that makes the Demo price a really good deal.
7) Overall it feels like a solid scope. Adjustments are crisp and the glass is really good for the money. I get very minor distortion around the edges.
8) If I have one “Con” it would be the Fast-Focus Eye-Piece. It turns very, very easily compared to the fast-focus eye-pieces on my other scopes. It also has a rubber ring (high friction) around it instead of a smooth hard plastic ring. I found that just the act of putting the rifle in and out of the case or sliding the eye-piece across clothing can cause the eye-piece to turn. I thought this might just be an issue with my particular scope but my second Speed Shot is exactly the same and I expect the 3rd to be the same way. Not a deal breaker though. After I am sure each eye piece is focused where I want it I plan on cleaning a couple of spots between the eye-piece and tube and injecting a couple of small dots of black silicone rubber to hold it in place.
Another great scope and outstanding value from Mueller.
I am not the type to normally write product reviews. But today has found me shaking my head with a confounded look on my face. Sure, I have read the reviews with people claiming their Mueller scope is as good as or better than their Leupolds, Elites, and other expensove scopes. But I wrote that off as simply over excited “fanboys” needing to quantify their recent purchases. Boy was I ever wrong. I needed a medium powered scope that would focus down to 10 yds and also have reasonably small Mil Dots for precise work. At the low price of Mueller products, I did not expect but much, but I went ahead and ordered an APT, figuring I could always send it back when it proved to have the normal yellowish, unclear, or hazy look of inexpensive optics.
I can not really call myself an Optics Snob … As I have never even looked through a Schmidt & Bender or Nightforce scope. But I do have a taste for quality optics, and have owned Leupold Vari-X III, Bushnell Elite 4200, Minox ZA5, Weaver Grand Slams, and a Zeiss Conquest. These are not cheap scopes, and offer very good performance, so imagine my surprise when I came to grips that my new APT was as good if not better than ALL of those expensive scopes I have owned! So I was dead wrong, and the claims I had read by others were not just rampant “fanboyism”, but real and true reports!
Yeah … I am completely blown away by the APT scope. It simply IS brighter and clearer than my much more expensive scopes, and if Mueller keeps making scopes of this quality, at these prices, I will NEVER again buy another scope brand in my lifetime.
Thanks for an awesome product at an awesome price, Josh G.
One more thing I forgot to say : I am an avid airgunner and airgun smith, and have been for the past 27 years. Airgunners really like lightweight scopes in the power range of your APV scope ….. BUT almost ALL of them want and use Mil Dot scopes, and most will not buy a scope with a Plex reticle.
If you would put your Mil Dot reticle in the 4.5-14×40 AO APV scope, you would sell a ton of them to airgunners, and i would personally lead the charge on all of the airgun forums.
Cheers, Josh G
The Turkey Hunters review on the Mueller Quickshot Reflex Sight.
FOV is awesome. Reticle pics are at 40 yds and the orange sticker is a 3″ sticker. Comes with an extra battery…..
Read entire review here…..
V. Hall, Richmond, VA
Just wanted you to know that I mounted two of your 4.5-14X40 AO scopes on my two Remington 700 SPS Varmint rifles. One is a .308 and the other is a .204 Ruger. Your scopes make it really easy to hit the target! My 14 year old son used the .308 at 100 yards to put 5 shots in a hole that was covered by a quarter with room to spare! The .204 was just one ragged hole! I am using DNZ Game Reaper one piece mounts on both as they are easy to install and no chance of binding. My Leopold and Nikon shooting buddies are jealous of my scopes. They paid much more than I did for the same high quality glass. Keep up the good work!
I Have 2, 3×10 Sport Dot IGR Scopes and I have to tell you how impressed I have been with your Product. I have had many very good Scopes before and NONE have been better Quality, Clarity, and Function than Your Scopes. Your Company has been a pleasure to deal with and every order has been Perfect!! On time and with a Free Hat (which i wear with Pride!!) and a GREAT Price that could be more and STILL be a good buy. I want to Personally Thank Everyone who works for your First Class Company and I am Spreading the word @ How good your products are and Wish you all the Success you rightly deserve!!
Really, You have a Top Class Product and I assure you it is Greatly Appreciated!!
My name is Norberto, I live in San Jose Costa Rica and I would like to give my impressions on this superb scope so that if you like you could go on and post them in your web site.
Mueller: The box is nothing fancy, instructions is a photocopied paper, a nice lens cover (with the eye piece yellow) and that is all you get.I suppose that Mueller doesn’t waist money on making fancy boxes or useless instruction manuals. Good going, that is a way of saving on costs and consequently lower the prices. The scope is worth every cent. I know a lot on optics since I am a photographer other that a weapons lover. The lenses in this scope are completely coated, and you can see that it is not a cheap coating that many manufacturers place on lenses, this is the real thing. Light and colors are superb, and I can say that I see better trough the scope than with my bare eyes. This is no surprise since optics with Antireflection treatment and low distortion often have the feeling of improving the scene. Precision in making good lenses makes, and bodies the difference. This scope is no “cheap” scope. It has a good “rough” feeling and it looks very durable. It is all made in Japan, and we all know that Japan makes other mayor optical brands that are among the best in the world. Even if it’s price is “low” it is incredible the image that you get. The lens covers aren’t disturbing like in most cases where they are worthless and end up in a drawer. This ones maintains a nice image with no distortion. So no need to take them of for shooting. I compared this scope with a major brand scope that I have, Nikon Tactical, costing 3 times more than this one and I have to honestly say that the price difference has no justification on the quality. Mueller is just as good (please note that I don’t say that it is better) than the Nikon in image quality, clarity and colors. For what concerns precision in the scope I haven’t tested it yet but I plan to do it as soon as possible. I would recommend this scope to anyone that is thinking in having a superb quality scope at a reasonable price.
I just received my scope and and the optics are great, the workmanship is excellent and the red dot is a big plus. It is mounted on a 223 and I shoot in a benchrest rest club. The groups are consistant and many of my hardcore 700 dollar and above buddys are really impressed with it. I see you selling many more in the future! Thanks alot from the budget benchrest shooter. My wife didn’t even bat an eye when I told her the price.
Thanks Mueller for affordable optics!
YOUR SCOPE IS EVERYTHING YOU SAID IT WAS AND MORE. I MOUNTED IT ON AN OLD TARGET RIFLE IN 222 MAGNUM TO USE AS A VARMIT RIFLE. I BULLSEYED THROUGH OUT ALL POWER RANGES AND HAD TWO ONE HOLE GROUPS.I ALSO FOUND THE CLARITY TO BE EXCELLENT, EVEN BETTER THAN SCOPE YOU SUGGESTED FOR COMPARISAN.IN TODAYS MARKET A TRUE VALUE FOR THE MONEY
My name is Eric. I purchased a 4-16×50 AO IGR from you a couple of years ago. I would like to tell you a short story regarding your scope’s performance during a recent elk hunting trip to Colorado.
This past October I was elk hunting up near the Continental Divide in Pagosa Springs, Colorado. I had my Mueller scope mounted to a Browning A-Bolt 7mm Rem Mag. I was carrying the rifle over my shoulder on a sling because at the time I was riding a mule. I got off the mule at the creek to give the poor thing a break. I was also leading another mule down to the creek as well. Wouldn’t you know that as I got between the mules, one lead rope got wrapped around my gun and the mule bolted. In the ensuing milliseconds, my rifle was ripped off my back and went crashing down onto the rocks, SCOPE FIRST!! I reached down, grabbed the gun and examined the scope. External damage was heartbreaking. The illuminator knob was almost crushed, and a series of deep scratches went from end to end. I could also see judging by the scope ring marks, that the whole scope got pushed up toward the bell by almost 1/4 inch. My hunt hadn’t even started and my gun was most definitely royally screwed… at least I thought. When I arrived at our high altitude campsite, I found a can sized rock perched against a slope, that best guess, was about 250 yards away. I loaded the gun, found an old deadfall, got myself comfortable, and fired the shot.
The rock disappeared into a mist.
Congratulations for making such an outstanding piece of hunting equipment. Let me know when the bow sight comes out, I want one!
Salisbury, Maryland USA
To whom it may concern,
I would just like to send a message to your company to let you know that I am totally and completely satisfied with my new Mueller scope. I purchased it in March of this year and have had it to the range and out hunting quite a bit so far. It has really held up well, and the optics clarity are exceptional! I WILL be purchasing more Mueller scopes to replace some of the “also-ran” scopes that I have been getting by with for years. I really like the red dot option on these scopes and I am looking forward to using this feature this year when night hunting for fox. Having that red dot would have really been nice last season, when on many occasions I couldn’t see the center of my aiming point in the crosshairs. Thank You for an exceptional quality product, keep up the great work.
John R. Dillard
I recently purchased the above model scope by from your web sight. It was delivered in a very timely manner. I put the scope on a Winchester model 70 308 cal. I had it sighted in with 7 rounds. I really like putting the dot on the target as opposed to the crosshairs touching when looking through the scope. There was no change in shot group when I turned on the red dot. I could not believe how clear it is looking through the scope. It’ a perfect scope and when I need another scope I am getting one just like this one.
Walter M. Wingfield
Mueller Optics I personally want to thank you for your product! I recently returned from Iraq and went deer hunting up in Michigan. I borrowed my buddies 12 guage with mueller optics on it and dropped a doe at 171 yards! My first deer ever and had never even shot the firearm before!! I am convinced this is the best scope on the market! I cant wait to go back to Michigan in 2005 with my 2-7×32 Mueller scope for my Remington 1100 and Hastings CSD barrell.
Major John C. Jacobi
I ordered a 3-9×40IGR scope from you guys this week and I received it yesterday. Obviously I haven’t got it mounted and used it yet in a shooting situation, but last night at dusk I took it outside and played with it. My first impression is “Boy what a deal”. I have been a Leupold user for years and would touch nothing else but when I saw your scope I had to try it. I can’t wait to get it mounted and actually use it. I am impressed with the clarity in dim light, and the red dot is to die for. Just wanted to know that it really does look like what your web site says it is.
Thanks for the rapid response to my order.
I recently purchased a Mueller Red Dot 4×16×50 AO and I have to tell you that it is an awesome scope. It delivers outstanding clarity and magnification. Although I haven’t had the chance to use the “red dot” in low light circumstance yet, I am sure it will surpass my expectations.
Your product is a real value and I just wanted to say thank you to the engineering staff for its quality.
Needless to say I have had quite a few onlookers at the range wanting to see through the scope. All were very impressed, especially those that paid $3-400.00 for their scopes. (Brand names withheld) I don’t want to upset the “other guys”.
Again, thank you for a real “VALUE” amongst the myriad of choices out there.
Ft Lauderdale, FL
I would like to say that the Mueller Scope I just received is by far clearer than any other Scope I have and they all cost me much more. I will be ordering a few more shortly. Thanks again
St. Paul, MN
Thank you very much for the Scope I purchased, it is by far worth its weight in gold.
I have just purchased a new Remington Mod. 700 ADL Synthetic and the Mueller Red Dot Scope was a perfect match with my rifle. It has yielded awesome results at the range and I cant wait for hunting season.
I just received my new Mueller Scope and cannot believe the quality of this Scopes for the introductory price offered. I own many high end Scopes and would easily compare the clarity with Scopes I have paid upwards of $500 for and have to give you two thumbs up for your quality and service. I will be showing my new Mueller Scope to everyone I hunt with and I’m sure you will see more orders soon.
On May 7, 2004 I ordered and a few days later received a Mueller 8.5-25×50AO scope. At first I was pleased, but I had not yet mounted it on my Savage Model 10 Tactical .223. This afternoon I mounted the scope using Weaver mounts and Leupold rings. I am no longer pleased. I am estatic. Wonderful scope. Wonderful. Thank you! My snooty Leupold Only hunting partner was impressed, also.
The best, and thanks again,
Dear Mueller Optics,
Just to let you know I sighted in My 270 with this scope, Awesome!!!! Consistent shot groups. My final shot is always at a rock on a fence post @ 200yds. hit it first shot, till next deer season lookout coyotes & javalinas.
Well it’s been a good deer season for me this year and I would like to say kudos to you for a fine rifle scope that you folks sell there. See if you remember me from this last September you and I had chatted about this scope that you guys where gonna put on the market the 4×16×50 well all I can say is it preformed perfectly it work in low light in the morning as well as twilight in the evenings as well and never had a problem with hold on target sited it once and was good Togo for whole season, I’m very excited about hunting varmints this winter. The lighted center work like a charm for those low light conditions that I had in the evenings no concentration on finding corsairs to shoulder on deer. I’m impress and anyone would be pleased to have one of theses scopes on there rifle.
Thanks Scott, we wish you success in all of your hunting adventures
I wanted to share a pic of how good your scope looks on my DPMS AR15 with an ASA one piece scope mount. I took it out for the first time yesterday morning. I am including a sample target from 100 yards. I was shooting next to a police sniper from Avondale PD and was getting as good or better groupings than he was. Prarie dogs beware! My Dad loves his Mueller as well and I’ve been recommending them to everyone! Great scope, great price!
Ted J. Crews
Dear Mueller guys and gals,
I have to admit, I was skeptical. Life is too short for bad optics and ruined hunts, but my pockets aren’t deep enough anymore for the super-premium scopes with their price tags of $700 and up. I first discovered Mueller optics on eBay and then did a lot of searching various websites for reviews. I even contacted you at one stage to talk about coatings. Finally, I just did it. I bought Tac II to put on a Browning A-Bolt in 338 Win.
The image quality of this scope is superb. Color and light transmission are equally superb. It’s well made and well finished. Best of all – it shoots, man does it shoot. Check out the photo from my efforts at the range at 100 yards. This group size is phenomenal for a hunting rifle. Even more impressive is the final shot, the lowest of the three – I adjusted the scope ¼ down and ¼ left and guess what? That is EXACTLY where the Tac II put it – and if I hadn’t moved it, the group would be even smaller again.
I have a couple of mid-range Nikons and a top of the range Burris Black Diamond – they’re good scopes, but this one is better, and much cheaper. My buddy who witnessed the group has a number of high-end Zeiss and Leupold scopes – he felt the Mueller was equal to or better than anything he has, and now he wants one!
I am convinced and very very happy. Thanks.
Cris Draper: accomplished outdoor writer, producer and been featured on many outdoor TV segments, provides the latest information on new products which he field tests extensively.
The Mueller Scope was mounted on a Demo Browning 300 A-Bolt Medallion, WSSN which was supplied by Browning for Cris
I took it in on Tuesday and had it mounted on a demo rifle from Browning 300 A-Bolt Medallion, WSSM. Took it out behind my house and got it on paper the first night, then to the range the next day to dial it in. Very nice! The last three shots I fired at 100 yards where at 10x.
First and foremost, let me say, I am totally impressed. And not just me, but several of my Pro Staff Members also made the trip and had a chance to give the scope the once over. I won’t give away the whole details on the review for this first of the two hunts I will be doing the testing on, but rest assured, the initial results are great! For the cost, performance and features offered, we agree it is a serious contender in its price bracket and able to compete with higher priced scopes easily.
I did actually have the red dot on when I heard the bear coming in, it was the second thing I took care of, only after flipping the safety off…
Here is a quote from the Guide that has been in business for over 35 years.
As I cleaned out the bear for Mr. Draper and say the shot placement of his shot, I was amazed. It was one of the best shots I have seen on a a bear yet. He had penetrated the left lung dead center, cutting the main artery to the heart, then passing cleanly through the right lung as it passed on through the bear. It was as good as it gets! I wish every client had the shot placement and red dot scope Mr. Draper used on this hunt. Please send me more information on these when they become available to the general market! More to come!!
Smoking Gun Shooting Team, Shane Hurkmans
The scope I tested was the Mueller 8.5-25×50 AO red dot. Here is what I did in my shop with the scope. First I put it on my bench 22lr rifle and sighted it in. then I shot the scope for square. This test is five shot groups, then I turned the scope left nine clicks and shot five more then up nine clicks and right nine then nine down. When the last five were right in the same place the first five were not to bad for having five miles an hour winds . When I took the scope off the 22 and put it on my 375 H&H. I took the rifle and put it on the bench that I use for test actions in a vise, strapping the gun down and the butt of the gun up tight against a block wall so the recoil of the gun would not go back. This way the scope has to take all the force of the recoil. After 100 rounds from that, I shot the scope for groups on the 22 again. Then I put it on my 50cal BMG and shot 20 rounds through it. Then back to the 22 for the final test to see if it held center. After this test, I think this scope will hold up to just about anything you can do to this scope. Most scopes in this price range would not hold up to all this.
Smoking Gun Shooting Team
I just recently ordered a Mueller Tactical 4-16X50AO Scope. I paired this scope on my 17 HMR Target/Varmit Rifle. I just wanted to let you guys know how well this scope performed. Your scopes are up to par with very expensive scopes. I could not beleive how well this scope performed, even my buddy was shocked at how well this scope was. I just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed your product and I’m already planning on a new rifle so I’ll be sure to pair it up with another one of your scopes. I plan on matching your 8.5-25X44 on a .308 rifle soon. Thanks again, Josh Bryant